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one, some of the major taxes will roll out, three big taxes that are going to fund, although not -- we should be clear on this -- the tax on high value health insurance plans provided by employers. that won't begin until 2018. you will see changes in the medical delivery system itself. key performance for hospitals in terms of how they pay for services, moving away from pay for volume and towards pay for quality. those are going to roll out over the next year. come the end of next year 2013, we will see the massive coverage expansion where many, many, many people get the tax credit to either get private insurance or get covered by medicaid. we still expect the scale of that expansion by the beginning of 2014 to be in the range of 25 to 30 million people. they will be a lot of folks. beyond health care, it becomes a lot less certain. gun control, i wouldn't -- i expect a significant conversation. it is hard to imagine anything tremendously radical being done given both the composition of congress and due to now congress' powerful areas. >> mike, what's your ideas or predictions for the
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we've got a deal on taxes. we've got a few kinks to work out but they are quote, very, very close to a deal. tune in tonight 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. live for coverage of the fiscal cliff. myself and a cast of thousands with your latest as we count down toward the end of the year. "closing bell" coming up next. could be a big final hour of trading. bill griffith and an australian woman hosting the next hour. stay tuned anyway. >>> yeah. hang on, kids. here we go. welcome to "closing bell." i'm bill griffith. >> and i'm the australian woman. i'm mandy back at cnbc's world headquarters standing in for maria bartiromo. here we go, folks. stap yourself in. last trading hour for the whole year. the fiscal cliff, there may be a merge. we'll bring more on that. >> take a look at the charts. this tells the story in the last few minutes with mitch mcconnell on the floor saying that we are very, very close. we'll get more details from john harwood in a moment, but right now the markets are voting and they're giving thumbs up wi
we've got a deal on taxes. we've got a few kinks to work out but they are quote, very, very close to a deal. tune in tonight 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. live for coverage of the fiscal cliff. myself and a cast of thousands with your latest as we count down toward the end of the year. "closing bell" coming up next. could be a big final hour of trading. bill griffith and an australian woman hosting the next hour. stay tuned anyway. >>> yeah. hang on, kids. here we go. welcome to...
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apparently they've got the income tax level, the estate tax, capital gains tax, phase out deductions for people making over 250. when do we start to see the sequestration of the spending cuts? that really is the sticking point, right? >> i would prefer the republican approach, in that case, if that's what they want. i think -- we want another cliff to occur with the debt ceiling in order to force people to get together as they have today. >> right. >> look, here's the deal. i have never believed that taxing rich people is some sort of a moral imperative. my problem is, and i think the cliff is preferable to what's going on is not enough revenue in this. yeah, sure, you're going to tax people who make a lot of money and we can afford it. i think that's fun. it doesn't raise enough money to deal with the e deficit in a serious way. if you have the tax stuff you talked about, plus a significant spending sequester, you can get the spending cuts that you need in order to make a down payment on the deficit. this is really -- this is a political solution more than it is an actual deficit. >
apparently they've got the income tax level, the estate tax, capital gains tax, phase out deductions for people making over 250. when do we start to see the sequestration of the spending cuts? that really is the sticking point, right? >> i would prefer the republican approach, in that case, if that's what they want. i think -- we want another cliff to occur with the debt ceiling in order to force people to get together as they have today. >> right. >> look, here's the deal. i...
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, tax, tax. >> amazing like a head scratcher? >> yeah. i get the fact we had five straight down days and we were oversold. i don't think you get a solution that rallies this market 2% tomorrow, even if it's everything everybody wanted to hear. >> right, the fact of the matter is, they may agree on taxes but taxes across the board pretty much are going higher and there's still the debt limit issue and then the spending cuts issue. >> that's the thing. you nailed it. the debt ceiling conversation is going to be a weapon of force and it's something that's going to be hanging over this market. i heard nothing about entitlements. a house that wasn't even going to vote for boehner's plan b, which was $1 million in terms of the tax increases. i'm a little skeptical and i'm more worried about what happens from here. >> i think tim hit it right on the head. the debt ceiling debate is going to be a problem. remember what we had in 2011, it was a disaster. what it looks like to me, you have a lot of people getting long this market. you coul
, tax, tax. >> amazing like a head scratcher? >> yeah. i get the fact we had five straight down days and we were oversold. i don't think you get a solution that rallies this market 2% tomorrow, even if it's everything everybody wanted to hear. >> right, the fact of the matter is, they may agree on taxes but taxes across the board pretty much are going higher and there's still the debt limit issue and then the spending cuts issue. >> that's the thing. you nailed it. the...
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gains tax. it's a bad time to move into apple. things like intel. something that the market beat up all year, you know, in the name of it being old world p.c. i think it -- push it to a point where the valuations are reasonable. stuff -- some of the utilities like s.o., aep, hit hard for tax reasons. when the new year starts, i think people will start moving back into those. i think there's things to buy. >> jim, it sounds like you're saying risk on as we approach january 1. i want to talk about the vix. i know that you watch that closely. we're watching it sitting under 20 now. not near the highs we saw when we were dealing with the debt ceiling debate. what's different about the fiscal cliff and what we were seeing then that's keeping the vix so low now? >> well, i think what it is is that the market's come to the realization that the budget thing is going to be clumsy. but at the end of the day, the fed is still prepared to inject more liquidity if things start to look bad. we have this push/
gains tax. it's a bad time to move into apple. things like intel. something that the market beat up all year, you know, in the name of it being old world p.c. i think it -- push it to a point where the valuations are reasonable. stuff -- some of the utilities like s.o., aep, hit hard for tax reasons. when the new year starts, i think people will start moving back into those. i think there's things to buy. >> jim, it sounds like you're saying risk on as we approach january 1. i want to...
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raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic on our board on the campaign to fix the debt, you know, the former head of the world bank, he said america is one good debt deal away from being the dominant economy for the next 25 years in the entire world. >> so you believe it's going town lock -- taking away that uncertainty is going to unlock cap "x" and hiring and consumers to open up their wallet? you think it will make that much of a difference? >> i believe it will. how many other arrows do we have in our quiver? >> there's an optimistic thought. better have another cheeseburger, governor. good to see you, again. thank you. >> good to see you guys. >> let's fix this. >> yeah. wouldn't that be nice. i'm the optimistic one on this show, and i'm starting to lose t
raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic on our board on the campaign to fix the debt, you know, the former head of the world bank, he said america is one good debt deal away from being the dominant economy for the next 25 years in the entire world....
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you'll see estate taxes go up, investment taxes go up. there is an endless list of expiring provisions of law that will, in fact, expire if nothing is done. and i think even if something is done at this point, what you're looking at is something very scaled back, something very small and congress will have to come back next year and take a look at trying to get to some of those other issues. >> alistair here. that sounds about right to me, assuming that that scenario is how things play out. what sort of impact medium term do you think this is going to have on consumer and corporate confidence in america, given that the fiscal cliff is clearly weighed heavily on both of those in recent months? >> the sad thing, you know, from an observer's standpoint here is that there isn't much corporate or consumer confidence in the american government. and it's proved itself dysfunctional time and again over the last couple of years. what you hear now is not how people believe that there's going to be some last-minute deal, but how they remember the ti
you'll see estate taxes go up, investment taxes go up. there is an endless list of expiring provisions of law that will, in fact, expire if nothing is done. and i think even if something is done at this point, what you're looking at is something very scaled back, something very small and congress will have to come back next year and take a look at trying to get to some of those other issues. >> alistair here. that sounds about right to me, assuming that that scenario is how things play...
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tax uncertainty is very high. you still have a reasonable amount of credit concerns in the marketplace and certain geographic sectors. so i think it's not surprising that there would be some nervousness. >> and what specifically, chris, is being discussed? any change in the tax free rate could mean there's much less opportunity or that what you are getting for putting your money into munis isn't justified. you know, it's early in the morning here in new york. in particular, just talk us through what changes would make nis as an asset class not attractive, in your view. >> well, the basic problem is that the u.s. treasury department has hated the municipal bond market at least since 1969. so they view themselves as providing a subsidy and that subsidy has an associated cost which currently they value at $30 billion. so it's one of the many items on the list that's a tax subsidy that many people would like to get rid of in washington without any regard, by the way, for the benefits the taxes of financing provide. so
tax uncertainty is very high. you still have a reasonable amount of credit concerns in the marketplace and certain geographic sectors. so i think it's not surprising that there would be some nervousness. >> and what specifically, chris, is being discussed? any change in the tax free rate could mean there's much less opportunity or that what you are getting for putting your money into munis isn't justified. you know, it's early in the morning here in new york. in particular, just talk us...
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j, for a long time, apple selling off because of tax selling. at this point, as we close the books on 2012 -- >> tax gain selling. >> exactly. can it be the fundamental story, finally catching up to apple? >> absolutely. and i think a lot of folks, you get that turnover because a lot of folks can get right back in, because, again, they don't have to worry about the work sale rule. they can get right back in. but nonetheless, it seems on every rally in the morning, melissa, it is hit by that tax gains selling that i'm talk about and perhaps those same folks are buying back into it in the afternoon, and then getting freaked out as the stock goes lower, into the end of the afternoon. so, whatever's going on in there, i like this story into 2013. i just don't like holding it now. i have no position in apple. >> josh brown, buyer or seller of apple? >> i'd be a buyer here. but i've been saying that since 560, 570. but i do think that the tax selling is having a huge impact on the stock. and i think the next earnings report, you probably would rather
j, for a long time, apple selling off because of tax selling. at this point, as we close the books on 2012 -- >> tax gain selling. >> exactly. can it be the fundamental story, finally catching up to apple? >> absolutely. and i think a lot of folks, you get that turnover because a lot of folks can get right back in, because, again, they don't have to worry about the work sale rule. they can get right back in. but nonetheless, it seems on every rally in the morning, melissa, it...
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on fri, president obama said he still hoped to work out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down to the end of this year and the oil only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. but i wish we had a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending and entitlement altogether. >> i believe the president senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> some finger pointing. other republicans are now looking past new year's day to the next battleground. >> i will raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security and prevent this country from becoming greece. no more borrowing without addressing why we're in debt to begin with. that's where the rea
on fri, president obama said he still hoped to work out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down...
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you have to go to your tax person on that. when you put it in, there's a limit before you get hit with that business tax. check that out. epd, they are all coming down. every single one is coming down. i want to buy. louis in maryland. >> caller: dunkin brands. >> i like it very much. i wanted to buy it for my travel charitable trust recently, but i own starbucks for that one. that's one that ginny mentioned at the top of the lightning round. brandon in oregon. >> caller: how are you doing today? >> it's a good day. how about you? >> caller: real good. my question is what are your thoughts on snap-on? >> it's one of my favorites. let's go to gregory in mississippi. gregory. wow, gregory. >> caller: thank you for taking my call, mr. cramer. my question is on company wr grace. techer symbol gra. it's had a good run this year. i was wondering your opinion. >> i have to save that one. i used to know grace and i'm not sure what's in it and stock is red hot. i vow to be bullish about it if i can find out more about it other than the
you have to go to your tax person on that. when you put it in, there's a limit before you get hit with that business tax. check that out. epd, they are all coming down. every single one is coming down. i want to buy. louis in maryland. >> caller: dunkin brands. >> i like it very much. i wanted to buy it for my travel charitable trust recently, but i own starbucks for that one. that's one that ginny mentioned at the top of the lightning round. brandon in oregon. >> caller: how...
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and if you reach the level of taxes is too high. so the strategy of the government should be going forward, again, to cap public spending, reduce taxes, to create a favorable environment for corporate. and let me say that france has a lot of advantages. nice infrastructure, good infrastructure, demography, people with skills, a good level of education. we can take advantage of that, even compared with our peers so let's do everything we can to -- the benefit of these positive advantages and not be -- not present people to invest in france because they might be afraid of a lack of visibility on the taxpayers or too high taxes. >> but do you think it's sending the right signal to investors when it's threatening to nationalize a factory? >> no, certainly not. these are not the right ones and clearly what an investor needs is, again, confident. immediately going forward, illustrate will not suffer from taxes or a potential threat. the message should be positive for investors, not just french one, but also we have a strategy to reduce st
and if you reach the level of taxes is too high. so the strategy of the government should be going forward, again, to cap public spending, reduce taxes, to create a favorable environment for corporate. and let me say that france has a lot of advantages. nice infrastructure, good infrastructure, demography, people with skills, a good level of education. we can take advantage of that, even compared with our peers so let's do everything we can to -- the benefit of these positive advantages and not...
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. >> it's been all about taxes. >> all about raising taxes. >> there's this obsession with raising taxes. >> it was to go after school lunches and elderly care, health care for poor kids and increased spending. >> no, no, no, they want entitlement reform, joy ann. why this obsession with cutting old people's medicare? >> it's not an obsession about cutting benefits to the elderly, joy ann. it's about reforming medicare over time so at some point in the future we don't tell an 80-year-old you know what? you're not going get the medicare cha you thought you would have. this is about not hurting the elderly. >> the republican solution is to hand 80-year-olds a voucher and saying good luck, go into the markets and see what you can get. >> 80-year-olds are not any part of it. they're 20, 30 years from now. the president's idea of spending cuts had to do with $700 billion worth of medicare cuts in the past two years ago. >> and paul ryan endorsed it. >> paul ryan endorsed it and that was in ryan's plan. thanks, guys. >> there was another surprise coming out of washington today. the unexpected
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and i didn't vote to raise your taxes. as simplistic as that is, i think it's true so i think they let us go over and then cut the taxes and they undo all the good the cliff could actually do. >> but there's no real spending cuts. that's part of the problem. it's all talk. there's no real cuts in the cliff. >> you guys sound like congress. keep on arguing behind the scenes. enjoy yourselves. thank you so much, michael. peter, you're sticking around. >>> meantime, the fiscal cliff may be a big deal but there is another threat out there which might be in the short term more risky. the container cliff. businesses up and down the eastern seaboard are bracing for a massive port showdown as unions threaten to strike and possibly shut down most imports and exports out of this country. let's add in cnbc contributor jimmy peeb. we focus so much on the fiscal cliff. if we shut down 14 or 15 of the biggest ports in america, that could do much more harm than any fiscal escarpment. >> it could do much more harm more quickly. the fiscal
and i didn't vote to raise your taxes. as simplistic as that is, i think it's true so i think they let us go over and then cut the taxes and they undo all the good the cliff could actually do. >> but there's no real spending cuts. that's part of the problem. it's all talk. there's no real cuts in the cliff. >> you guys sound like congress. keep on arguing behind the scenes. enjoy yourselves. thank you so much, michael. peter, you're sticking around. >>> meantime, the fiscal...
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dividend stocks because you might be extremely vulnerable if competition ever spiked in a big way or the tax rates on dividends went up dramatically and your whole portfolio could get hurt. if you own one stock with a real large yield and one or two other names also sport decent dividends once they get raised, that's not a bad thing. i know dividend-paying stocks may not be what most people consider sexy, but you know what? dividends make you money and to me that's the definition of sex appeal. i've got a pretty warped social life. my perspective here might be a little skewed by the fact remains buying high yielders and reinvesting your dividends back into the stocks, one of the greatest and most reliable ways to make money out there, plain and simple. it allows the interest to compound over time. in other words, over time the money from your past dividends pays dividends. giving you what we call compounding returns. now there's a huge misconception out there about dividends. people think that high-yielders are only about safety or generating income in your retirement but go back to january
dividend stocks because you might be extremely vulnerable if competition ever spiked in a big way or the tax rates on dividends went up dramatically and your whole portfolio could get hurt. if you own one stock with a real large yield and one or two other names also sport decent dividends once they get raised, that's not a bad thing. i know dividend-paying stocks may not be what most people consider sexy, but you know what? dividends make you money and to me that's the definition of sex appeal....
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and there will be a look back and they'll correct the tax implications for all of us. but the thing they won't be able to do anything about and that they will actually have to negotiate and get done is the debt ceiling. that is the big thing facing us right now. most likely in the first three weeks of january. >> what makes you give back into the market? what makes you put a position on? >> i think we'll see some panic during the first three weeks of january. i really do. >> a whoosh down and then start fishing. >> yes. i would like to see that same sort of panic that lifts us into the mid 20s for the vix. i don't want to see that folks but when scott is asking me when would i get back in, i'll get back in because i anticipate that panic because as these guys have proved, they said november 16th. we're not going to go to the end of the line to get this thing approved. they've come all the way to the end of the line. they will do the same thing with the debt ceiling and that is why i think we're going to see a pop in the vix. >> what happens with the stock market? what
and there will be a look back and they'll correct the tax implications for all of us. but the thing they won't be able to do anything about and that they will actually have to negotiate and get done is the debt ceiling. that is the big thing facing us right now. most likely in the first three weeks of january. >> what makes you give back into the market? what makes you put a position on? >> i think we'll see some panic during the first three weeks of january. i really do. >> a...
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because then obama gets the tax increase that he wanted, right? the republicans aren't seen by their constituency of giving into the tax increase and then they start from there, anew, and you can bring it down to the middle class tax cut. so, why isn't that the way it's going to be playing out and the meeting by the house on sunday, just optic. obama coming back, just optics. >> well, like i said a couple of minutes ago, it's the relief rally versus the negative impact of the fiscal cliff. in other words, the recession their forces in the cliff, so, you picture two, like a sea change. the relief rally where it's going to happen, when we get a deal. then you have the recession their forces of the cliff right after that, so, you can see those two forces. i've been looking -- >> stocks can trade up during a recession. not when you're going into it. as you see going out of it. >> but it's still $130 billion of new taxes that are hitting the economy. maybe 150. i'm looking at two-month vices future versus the eight-month and i've been tracking it. trac
because then obama gets the tax increase that he wanted, right? the republicans aren't seen by their constituency of giving into the tax increase and then they start from there, anew, and you can bring it down to the middle class tax cut. so, why isn't that the way it's going to be playing out and the meeting by the house on sunday, just optic. obama coming back, just optics. >> well, like i said a couple of minutes ago, it's the relief rally versus the negative impact of the fiscal...
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and the american people know that restoring the bush tax cuts is not a tax cut. it's a continuation of the status quo of the last 12 years. as was done two years ago. when you allow some of those tax cuts to lapse, taxes are higher than they were before. so the idea that obama could run as a tax cutter when he's been demanding tax increases his entire presidency, and we're about to start the conversation of $1 trillion of obama care taxes over the next decade, obama and the democrats' tax cutters will be laughed out of the park. >> with respect, he's just won the election on that basis, hasn't he, that he would tax the rich more, and give away candies to those on $250,000 or below. you know, the democrats have long opposed the bush era tax cuts. but now they have this as a new pledge, simply to win power. >> well, interestingly, what's happened is the president has moved 98% of the way towards the republican position. he opposed the bush tax cuts. he said they were a bad idea, both in 2001 and 2003. and now he's talking about wanting to maintain 98% of them or so
and the american people know that restoring the bush tax cuts is not a tax cut. it's a continuation of the status quo of the last 12 years. as was done two years ago. when you allow some of those tax cuts to lapse, taxes are higher than they were before. so the idea that obama could run as a tax cutter when he's been demanding tax increases his entire presidency, and we're about to start the conversation of $1 trillion of obama care taxes over the next decade, obama and the democrats' tax...
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the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on the floor during the 2001 tax bill and said our job is to raise taxes when they need to be raised and lower them when they need to be lowered. that's the senate and the house's job. >> but, one man's -- is another man's -- if you look at the laugher curve you don't know when to raise and when to lower at this point. >> president obama kept bush's taxes in for two years. >> i know. >> but suddenly, you know, democrats like you love the 98%, and you hate the 2%. it's very weird. >> tell him, joe. >> don't hate the 2%. i'm not a self-
the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on...
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does happen, and on top of that you have state tax increases as well. you add all of that up, if you're at the higher end you'll be cutting back some because somebody's got to give. >> you're saying the luxury retailers are the ones that we need to watch, those are the stocks that might take the biggest hit in this whole thing? >> again, it's a company-to-company thing. if you have a big business servicing tourists and tourists are doing well from asia and the arab world, maybe you'll be okay. but if you have a generalized -- yeah, i think the high end is going to be pressed and as you saw this holiday season, it appears that those people offering value did somewhat better. those people are selling consumable products did better than those selling durable products in general. >> what are your best picks? you're managing this fund. where would you put your money? the phone thing is, you know, i mention all of these stocks that are down whether it's macy's, the gap, walmart, abercrombie and others, your topics don't mention any of those. shine some light
does happen, and on top of that you have state tax increases as well. you add all of that up, if you're at the higher end you'll be cutting back some because somebody's got to give. >> you're saying the luxury retailers are the ones that we need to watch, those are the stocks that might take the biggest hit in this whole thing? >> again, it's a company-to-company thing. if you have a big business servicing tourists and tourists are doing well from asia and the arab world, maybe...
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you're increasing taxes on peel. and listen, john -- >> taxes -- >> i understand, so you're increasing the tax rate on people that actually invest that money in capital equipment, into working -- in other working capital to grow their businesses to create jobs. that's how you actually get more revenue for the federal government the effective way is by growing your economy. you're going to harm economic growth by doing that. that's just basic fact. i don't know -- do you know if a tax increase actually helps the economy grow or helps create another job? >> what happened in the '90s after clinton- -- taxes were raised under clinton, the economy was pretty strong. >> that's because we lowered taxes and all these businesses that we created in the '80s came to fruition in the '90s you can get away with that for a short period of time. let's take a look at the 2003 tax cuts. when those were enacted federal revenues $128 trillion, four years later it's over $205 trillion. it grew with tax cuts through economic growth. far m
you're increasing taxes on peel. and listen, john -- >> taxes -- >> i understand, so you're increasing the tax rate on people that actually invest that money in capital equipment, into working -- in other working capital to grow their businesses to create jobs. that's how you actually get more revenue for the federal government the effective way is by growing your economy. you're going to harm economic growth by doing that. that's just basic fact. i don't know -- do you know if a...
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the rating agencies understand voting for a tax decrease is easier than tax increase. if this drags on to late january, the president is talking about using the inauguration as a forum to bash republicans, if this goes into february, they could come out irrespective of a deal going forward, aaa doesn't act like this. >> i think it's a problem if -- first of all, we don't get there. then there are down grades. that begins to sit in on corporate holdings. >> this is broader than insurance, major markets and holders. >> insurance is such a huge holder of corporate and municipal debt. the other thing, i think is interesting, i heard from the governor, i heard a statistic that rocked me back when i heard it, said in 2012, the first person to live to be 150 years old was born. think about the implications for that around annuities, social security, the medicare system. a lot of this is really not around poor management. i heard people saying it's been mismanaged. people are living so much longer than we ever expected. the retime ages set in 1800s. that is to a large degree w
the rating agencies understand voting for a tax decrease is easier than tax increase. if this drags on to late january, the president is talking about using the inauguration as a forum to bash republicans, if this goes into february, they could come out irrespective of a deal going forward, aaa doesn't act like this. >> i think it's a problem if -- first of all, we don't get there. then there are down grades. that begins to sit in on corporate holdings. >> this is broader than...
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care tax. the occupy movement will not return with the same strength, but talk of fat cats and p will iticrats in the media will drive the wealthy further into hiding and reduce conspicuous consumption. the rich will put less money into u.s. stocks and more into assets. funded by the overseas rich with some homes selling for more than $100 million. luxury spending will remain weak largely because of weakness in china. bright spots will be high end luxuries and experiences like travel and entertainment. wealth will become quieter. call it stealth wealth. the big spending in big luxuries will be behind closed doors and kitchens like this could become the new status symbol. >> du that report from your kitchen, is that how that -- >> i didn't -- no, i didn't see that. i don't remember him being there. no, our american-made company today makes what is considered to be the most popular snack food in the world. rob is cogoed founder of dock popcorn. >> hi, guys. it's actually -- >> i always thought or
care tax. the occupy movement will not return with the same strength, but talk of fat cats and p will iticrats in the media will drive the wealthy further into hiding and reduce conspicuous consumption. the rich will put less money into u.s. stocks and more into assets. funded by the overseas rich with some homes selling for more than $100 million. luxury spending will remain weak largely because of weakness in china. bright spots will be high end luxuries and experiences like travel and...
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the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell. the senate taking the lead on a compromise with democrats, and something that can get some support among house republicans. carl? >> hampton, thank you very much. hampton pearson in washington. >> the gift that keeps on giving. we're talking about market wisdom. what you need to know ahead of the opening bell. and whether you're a holiday traveler or investor, you want to hear about the state of the airline industry. let's take a look at futures one last time before the holiday shortened session. about ten points down on the dow. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, tho
the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell....
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taxes should not go up for 98% of the people. you have wilful minorities in this house and in the senate, who want to make certain taxes stay lower for the top 2%. in a real world, most of the time you'd be able to resolve that. it's the really strange fiscal politics of washington that's been doctrinaire on the revenue side. we all understood we have spending to balance. the president put $400 billion of reductions in medicare savings on the table. the majority of americans, including romney voters understand the obvious, that is revenues have to be part of the equation. this is a question -- why can't we do it is the head scratching question for most people. it's really part of the institution institutional paralysis of congress, you have a filibuster that enables the minority to work their will and stop even consideration of legislation. in the house, the speaker has to bite the bullet and put on the floor a bill that's going to get significant democratic support and some republican support. that's the only way to do what the
taxes should not go up for 98% of the people. you have wilful minorities in this house and in the senate, who want to make certain taxes stay lower for the top 2%. in a real world, most of the time you'd be able to resolve that. it's the really strange fiscal politics of washington that's been doctrinaire on the revenue side. we all understood we have spending to balance. the president put $400 billion of reductions in medicare savings on the table. the majority of americans, including romney...
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taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we elected and they're doing everything they can to not pay attention to that and to go to their separate corners and to be separate and to pretend that their way is not the only way. >> and it could result in people being called into, like, their supervisor's offices and their supervisor goes, i'm sorry, people are actually losing jobs because of this. >> but is there what the people voted for? there are some that think this is what the president voted for. >> how can you think that the american people didn't vote for this? >> let me get to these economical reports. there are a number on today'
taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we...
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reach an agreement in the short time we have left, we'll need cooperation on both sides to prevent taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. i repeat, there's still some issues that need to be resolved before we can bring legislation to the floor. >> and the question is, when they bring that legislation to the floor, it is expected to pass in the senate side. what's going to happen over here on the house of representatives side of the capitol is the big question. will speaker boehner move it to the floor? if so, will it pass with democratic and republican votes? or will republicans block the measure? that will be the key drama for later this afternoon or later this evening or even tomorrow. no indications as of just yet as when the votes will actually happen, scott. >> aman, happy new year to you. see you on the other side. we are trading today's mark with josh and brian kelly. wise, we are probably going to get something done over the next 48 hours. the size is the question. what's the market going to look look on the other side of the holiday? >> well, to me that's dependent
reach an agreement in the short time we have left, we'll need cooperation on both sides to prevent taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. i repeat, there's still some issues that need to be resolved before we can bring legislation to the floor. >> and the question is, when they bring that legislation to the floor, it is expected to pass in the senate side. what's going to happen over here on the house of representatives side of the capitol is the big question. will speaker...
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there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or more in assets, obviously much more proactive in anticipating the tax consequences of going over the cliff than those with $1 million or less in assets. simon? >> okay, hampton, busy days. hampton pearson there in washington. straight ahead, a looming port strike that could cost the u.s. economy billions of dollars. the mayor of houston will join us live to tell us how this strike will affect her cities and cities right along the east coast. "squawk on the street" will be right back. off vietna
there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth...
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taxes or prospect of lower bonuses? >> i think both. eccentric, bodes to spending here in the northeast. as long as the economy holds up in terms of the markets and home prices and those type of things, again, the consumer has always been about the ability to spend versus willingness to. >> so which are the retailers, tom, in your opinion that could be hit the hardest? luxury obviously runs the gamut. >> yeah, absolutely. i think in terms of the middle tier consumer, we still haven't seen them come back in terms of the aspirational. in the high end, if we see us going over the fiscal cliff, like we saw in the recession, there will definitely be a pullback. maybe less units purchased. but there's still on the margin impacted consumer. but in terms of the middle income consumer, that could be impacted the most. >> talk about the broader picture here. i appreciate we're getting articles continually out of china suggesting that the new regime is going to cut down on excessive displays of wealth. but the middle classes are s
taxes or prospect of lower bonuses? >> i think both. eccentric, bodes to spending here in the northeast. as long as the economy holds up in terms of the markets and home prices and those type of things, again, the consumer has always been about the ability to spend versus willingness to. >> so which are the retailers, tom, in your opinion that could be hit the hardest? luxury obviously runs the gamut. >> yeah, absolutely. i think in terms of the middle tier consumer, we still...